- No, but I got a map here.
-All right. You're right here. Now, you had some trouble getting here, and some luck too. There's Council City down there.
- That's not far.
- A good green log might not make those rapids between here and Council City.
- We made the last one.
- I know. I was there. The river drops from here. The rapids get worse. You cut through a gorge of solid wall for 15 miles. The wall goes straight up. The other way is overland, but you haven't got a gun, haven't got a horse.
- So you say it can't be done.
- You asked me how far it was, that's how far.